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Post by Bryant on Dec 5, 2011 21:49:25 GMT -5
There has never been a prominent showing of scrambling quarterbacks in Madden in general especially not in 07. ...that is exactly what I just said: of course there isn't a playbook to do it, that's why you make a playbook to do that... do you get what im saying? And I was saying that there aren't many plays that would be able to utilize an athletic Mike Vick or Cam Newton style QB.
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Post by Night Train Lane on Dec 5, 2011 21:53:31 GMT -5
...that is exactly what I just said: of course there isn't a playbook to do it, that's why you make a playbook to do that... do you get what im saying? And I was saying that there aren't many plays that would be able to utilize an athletic Mike Vick or Cam Newton style QB. you could create them. the blocking schemes are surprisingly simple (lots of zone blocking) and the running lanes are even more simple. and what would you need to do to gameplan against it? you could run a default 4-3 against it and probably be as successful as anything you could create. if I made one would you help test it?
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Post by Bryant on Dec 5, 2011 21:55:05 GMT -5
And I was saying that there aren't many plays that would be able to utilize an athletic Mike Vick or Cam Newton style QB. you could create them. the blocking schemes are surprisingly simple (lots of zone blocking) and the running lanes are even more simple. and what would you need to do to gameplan against it? you could run a default 4-3 against it and probably be as successful as anything you could create. if I made one would you help test it? I don't have Madden 07 on my new computer but when I get it in a couple of weeks again I'll check it out and give my opinion but it probably won't change.
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Post by Night Train Lane on Dec 5, 2011 22:02:38 GMT -5
you could create them. the blocking schemes are surprisingly simple (lots of zone blocking) and the running lanes are even more simple. and what would you need to do to gameplan against it? you could run a default 4-3 against it and probably be as successful as anything you could create. if I made one would you help test it? I don't have Madden 07 on my new computer but when I get it in a couple of weeks again I'll check it out and give my opinion but it probably won't change. i understand that some may not like the idea but i would just ask to be fair about it. you don't want to have to spend excessive time gameplanning against someone's custom pb. compromise: what if to use a custom pb, it had to be reviewed by people around the league to see if it is fair or not? if it is fair, it is put into a section of the site and the simmer downloads it and uses it in game. that way it's out there for everyone to use, it isn't changing every week, so there's an ability to somewhat cater to your team, but not so much so to lead to excessive game planning (still don't buy that but whatevs) to become unfair?
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Post by Bryant on Dec 5, 2011 22:06:55 GMT -5
I don't have Madden 07 on my new computer but when I get it in a couple of weeks again I'll check it out and give my opinion but it probably won't change. i understand that some may not like the idea but i would just ask to be fair about it. you don't want to have to spend excessive time gameplanning against someone's custom pb. compromise: what if to use a custom pb, it had to be reviewed by people around the league to see if it is fair or not? if it is fair, it is put into a section of the site and the simmer downloads it and uses it in game. that way it's out there for everyone to use, it isn't changing every week, so there's an ability to somewhat cater to your team, but not so much so to lead to excessive game planning (still don't buy that but whatevs) to become unfair? I just don't like the idea of extra work on top of everything we already do. I play in these leagues to have casual fun in the off time of my school work like probably a few others here. Some of us just don't see this as a necessary addition.
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Post by Night Train Lane on Dec 5, 2011 22:10:28 GMT -5
i understand that some may not like the idea but i would just ask to be fair about it. you don't want to have to spend excessive time gameplanning against someone's custom pb. compromise: what if to use a custom pb, it had to be reviewed by people around the league to see if it is fair or not? if it is fair, it is put into a section of the site and the simmer downloads it and uses it in game. that way it's out there for everyone to use, it isn't changing every week, so there's an ability to somewhat cater to your team, but not so much so to lead to excessive game planning (still don't buy that but whatevs) to become unfair? I just don't like the idea of extra work on top of everything we already do. I play in these leagues to have casual fun in the off time of my school work like probably a few others here. Some of us just don't see this as a necessary addition. i understand that but you really wouldn't have extra work with the compromise scenario?
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Post by Bryant on Dec 5, 2011 22:13:38 GMT -5
I just don't like the idea of extra work on top of everything we already do. I play in these leagues to have casual fun in the off time of my school work like probably a few others here. Some of us just don't see this as a necessary addition. i understand that but you really wouldn't have extra work with the compromise scenario? Which is what exactly? Give me what you think should be the ruling on custom PBs.
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Post by Night Train Lane on Dec 5, 2011 22:21:36 GMT -5
i understand that but you really wouldn't have extra work with the compromise scenario? Which is what exactly? Give me what you think should be the ruling on custom PBs. compromise scenario: in order to use a custom PB, it would have to go through some sort probation period or something where no one could use it. maybe two weeks or so? people would have two weeks to look at it, voice their concerns about it. if it is approved, it can be used in game. then when the day comes to turn in your PB, the simmer goes there to download it. so the PB wouldn't change from week to week. you could test sim against it just like you would any other default playbook.
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Post by Night Train Lane on Dec 5, 2011 22:24:19 GMT -5
and by no one use it, i mean no one use it in game. it could be freely downloadable to see if it is unfair or not.
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Post by Bryant on Dec 5, 2011 22:26:02 GMT -5
Which is what exactly? Give me what you think should be the ruling on custom PBs. compromise scenario: in order to use a custom PB, it would have to go through some sort probation period or something where no one could use it. maybe two weeks or so? people would have two weeks to look at it, voice their concerns about it. if it is approved, it can be used in game. then when the day comes to turn in your PB, the simmer goes there to download it. so the PB wouldn't change from week to week. you could test sim against it just like you would any other default playbook. Would there be set council that earns TPE for that job? I know full well that no one would want the entire league looking at their playbook since then they can just gameplan around it.
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Post by Night Train Lane on Dec 5, 2011 22:30:12 GMT -5
compromise scenario: in order to use a custom PB, it would have to go through some sort probation period or something where no one could use it. maybe two weeks or so? people would have two weeks to look at it, voice their concerns about it. if it is approved, it can be used in game. then when the day comes to turn in your PB, the simmer goes there to download it. so the PB wouldn't change from week to week. you could test sim against it just like you would any other default playbook. Would there be set council that earns TPE for that job? I know full well that no one would want the entire league looking at their playbook since then they can just gameplan around it. i guess you could do a council, but i wouldn't think that it is necessary. just people in the league so that everyone can voice their concerns not just a few folks. and just because you make a playbook doesn't mean you'd use it in every single game. you could make a couple of them to keep people on their toes.
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Post by Bryant on Dec 5, 2011 22:41:05 GMT -5
Would there be set council that earns TPE for that job? I know full well that no one would want the entire league looking at their playbook since then they can just gameplan around it. i guess you could do a council, but i wouldn't think that it is necessary. just people in the league so that everyone can voice their concerns not just a few folks. and just because you make a playbook doesn't mean you'd use it in every single game. you could make a couple of them to keep people on their toes. But every single one would have to be reviewed and there is always a way to find a counter. Not worth the effort.
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Post by iharland on Dec 5, 2011 22:43:34 GMT -5
And every playbook we use now has a good counter... What's your point?
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Post by eatwittommy on Dec 5, 2011 22:47:17 GMT -5
Wait. Did anyone catch Bash say he was in a sim league about 5 years ago and the league lasted until about week 8?
Leagues back then would make it to the draft, then die from another league opening a few days after that. This is bullshit!
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Post by Night Train Lane on Dec 5, 2011 22:49:32 GMT -5
i guess you could do a council, but i wouldn't think that it is necessary. just people in the league so that everyone can voice their concerns not just a few folks. and just because you make a playbook doesn't mean you'd use it in every single game. you could make a couple of them to keep people on their toes. But every single one would have to be reviewed and there is always a way to find a counter. Not worth the effort. not worth the effort? that's the rebuttal? you don't even have madden 07, and you've made it clear that you don't want to make one, so who are you to determine if someone like myself or someone else should put out effort making a pb or not?
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